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Ich wollte das auch gar nicht als Verschwörungstheorie oder so anbringen... aber ich bleib dabei: Eine Überraschung wäre es nicht. Da braucht man auch nicht rumzudiskutieren. Ist halt meine Ansicht der Dinge und ich seh halt generell, dass man heutzutage viel unternimmt, um Geldzuwächse zu maximieren - gerne auch mit blöden Tricks und auf Kosten der Zuschauer oder auf Kosten des fairen, sportlichen Wettkampfs.

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In terms of sports events, it doesn’t get a whole lot bigger than the Superbowl. The annual event has become enshrined in American culture as the single biggest athletic event each year — but according to the betting figures being tallied for next month’s Conor McGregor vs. Floyd Mayweather bout, this time around the Superbowl appears to have met its match.
Kevin Bradley, the sports book manager at Bovada.lv, told Yahoo! that next month’s spectacle is trending to exceed the money laid down on this year’s Superbowl.
“We knew this fight would be big, potentially even bigger than the Super Bowl, but now we are almost certain it will be,” Bradley said. “The recent trash talking and promotional tour is only encouraging bets and at this rate we cannot even imagine how much we will take on it. One thing is for sure though, we will need Mayweather huge.

“A McGregor early round KO as he promised would be a potential disaster and is partly a reason we are giving a great price on Mayweather at the moment.”
McGregor’s odds to win have halved since the fight was announced, though Mayweather still remains the favourite in the eyes of the bookmakers.

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Die UFC braucht dringend Star Power. Ronda wird man höchstwahrscheinlich nicht mehr wiedersehen und niemand weiß wirklich genau was Conor nach dem 26. August macht. Bei UFC 200 war Brock der größte Name auf der Card und man hat über eine Million PPVs verkauft. Dementsprechend würde die UFC ihm ein richtig fettes Angebot machen.

Ich verstehe Brock in dieser Situation allerdings nicht. Der Mann hat gerade seinen 40. Geburtstag gefeiert. Was will er in der UFC noch erreichen? Warum nicht einen weiteren WWE Luxusvertrag unterschreiben, der ihm für ein paar Appearances pro Jahr sichere Millionen garantiert? Kann ich irgendwie nicht nachvollziehen.

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The talk of a Brock Lesnar UFC comeback can cool its jets.

Lesnar has not re-entered the USADA drug-testing pool, which would pave the way for an Octagon return, UFC vice president of athlete health and performance Jeff Novitzky confirmed with MMA Fighting on Wednesday. The news was first published by MMAjunkie after multiple outlets reported Wednesday that Lesnar had re-entered the pool and was eyeing a comeback.

Lesnar’s one-year doping suspension is frozen until he does re-enter the pool. If he ever returns to the pool, via a written notice to the UFC and USADA saying he is out of retirement, Lesnar would still have more than six months remaining on his suspension, Novitzky said. So even if he re-entered the pool this week, Lesnar would not be able to fight again until 2018. Lesnar formally retired from the UFC and left the testing pool over the winter.

“If he ever re-entered the program, he’d have to serve [the duration of the suspension] before he’d be able to compete,” Novitzky said.

Last July, Lesnar tested positive for the prohibited substance clomiphene twice in relation to his UFC 200 fight with Mark Hunt. Both USADA and the Nevada Athletic Commission (NAC) suspended him one year, with the NAC also fining him $250,000 and overturning his win over Hunt to a no contest. The NAC suspension has expired, but Lesnar’s USADA suspension is frozen with him out of the drug-testing pool and the clock on it will only start again on it if he comes back in.

The UFC cannot waive Lesnar’s suspension, but they could, per policy, exempt Lesnar from the six months of testing required of an athlete returning from retirement.

However, the UFC and USADA caught a ton of flack last year for the UFC waiving the then-four months of testing required for a returning athlete prior to UFC 200 and Lesnar’s suspension has more than six months on it anyway. So the point is moot.

Lesnar, who had not fought since 2011 before last year, was only tested beginning one month before UFC 200 and ended up testing positive in a pre-fight test. The results did not return until after the fight, which has prompted Hunt to sue the UFC, USADA and Lesnar for racketeering and criminal conspiracy, among other claims.

Currently, Lesnar is WWE’s biggest star. Pro Wrestling Sheet reported Wednesday that the former UFC heavyweight and current WWE Universal champion was re-entering the pool to keep his options open when his WWE contract expires. But Novitzky said that Lesnar has done no such thing.

USADA not respond to an MMA Fighting inquiry about the matter Wednesday.

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Pro Wrestling Sheet = Fake News

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UFC, Bellator and boxing did three pay-per-views on successive Saturday nights, and all three events are estimated at doing less than 150,000 buys.
by Dave Meltzer Jul 20, 2017, 10:01am EDT

The pay-per-view industry is predicting record numbers for next month’s Floyd Mayweather vs. Conor McGregor fight. Las Vegas betting sites are putting the over/under at 5 million buys and those involved with the show are touting significantly higher numbers.

But the other end of the pay-per-view industry is soft, with the three most recent major events being projected to do less than 150,000 buys.

This continues a trend that has gone on for a few years, where the big fights get bigger, but everything else gets smaller.

UFC 213 on July 8, the show that lost its main event of Amanda Nunes vs. Valentina Shevchenko at the last minute, is currently projected to do in the range of 125,000 to 150,000 buys. With the headliner of Robert Whittaker vs. Yoel Romero for the interim middleweight title, that could wind up as the lowest UFC number for a pay-per-view event, with the exception of some shows headlined by Demetrious Johnson, over the last decade. That correlates with the prelims rating on FS 1 being the lowest in nearly three years.

That was a show where everything went wrong, as the hoped for main event between Michael Bisping vs. Georges St-Pierre, which would have been expected to do major numbers, fell apart before it could be signed, apparently due to St-Pierre suffering an eye injury. Then Cody Garbrandt vs. T.J. Dillashaw fell through due to Garbrandt's back injury, and Donald Cerrone vs. Robbie Lawler fell through due to Cerrone having an infection.

Nunes vs. Shevchenko would have been a hard sell as the main event to begin with. While the axiom that women's main events couldn't draw on pay-per-view was blown to bits by Ronda Rousey, the reality is that except for Rousey fights, no woman has successfully headlined a pay-per-view. Some will point to UFC 200, which topped 1 million buys where Nunes vs. Miesha Tate was listed as the main event. The reality is the top two fights on that show as far as drawing power was concerned were Brock Lesnar vs. Mark Hunt and Daniel Cormier vs. Anderson Silva along with the UFC 200 name.

But that show still figures to come out ahead of Bellator's June 24 show in Madison Square Garden, which based on early estimates looks to be in the 90,000 to 130,000 buy range. The number was along the same lines as the first Bellator pay-per-view show in 2014, headlined by Rampage Jackson vs. King Mo Lawal. That main event came off as a major grudge match, even though it didn't really deliver the fireworks the hype would lead you to believe.

The June 24 show had the most hype and was easily the strongest name-value show in Bellator history. Chael Sonnen vs. Wanderlei Silva was a grudge match from years ago, and based on Bellator's history of using ex-UFC headliners who are past their primes, it probably would have been a very successful television main event. The other top bout, Fedor Emelianenko vs. Matt Mitrione, was anything but a grudge match. With two other title fights on the show, Scott Coker had talked of hoping to get to 200,000 buys.

David Schwarz of Spike TV talked of the Madison Square Garden event as a major success.

Schwarz said that Viacom company policy would not allow a release of the official numbers. Bellator did release the 2014 show number as just over 100,000 buys.

"I can say we are all very pleased with everything from the Bellator PPV - that, of course, includes the record gate, record domestic attendance, strong numbers for Bellator 180 (the two hour prelims on Spike) and great exposure for the brand, and great momentum as we plan our next PPV. Details coming."

In addition, the week in between, a boxing pay-per-view headlined by Andre Ward vs. Sergey Kovalev is estimated at doing about 130,000 buys. That would be down from the 160,000 buys from their previous fight in November.

For Mayweather vs. McGregor on Aug. 26, the promotion, in selling sponsorship packages to the show, is predicting numbers that are completely off the charts - 7 million buys in the U.S. and another 1.4 million in the U.K. In the same package, it lists the Mayweather vs. Manny Pacquiao fight, the previous record-holder, as doing 4.4 million buys in the U.S. and 700,000 in the U.K.

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UFC 213 unter 150.000 PPV Buys. Selbst Mighty Mouse hat schon besser gezogen.

Was den finanziellen Erfolg betrifft ein richtig schwaches Jahr für die UFC. 214 sollte der erste große PPV werden. Mit dem Jones vs Cormier Re-Match und 2 weiteren Title Fights sollten 700.000 - 800.000 durchaus drin sein. Man muss halt abwarten, ob auch diese Show von MayMac überschattet wird.

Die MayMac PPV Projections sind der absolute Wahnsinn. Wenn das auch nur annähernd zutrifft... Conor hat gesagt, wenn man die Pacquiao Zahlen übertrifft, knackt er die 100 Millionen. Sieht so aus als könnte da noch einiges hinzukommen. 7 Millionen Buys allein in den USA wären eine völlig neue Dimension. Das glaube ich aber auch erst wenn ich es sehe. Die Medien versuchen schließlich alles um diesen Fight komplett durch den Dreck zu ziehen und die Fans davon abzuhalten den PPV zu ordern.

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... und jetzt will man offenbar sehen ob man diese UFC 213 Zahlen noch unterbieten kann. Eine Mighty Mouse Card im MayMac-GGGvsCanelo Sandwich. Weniger als 100K Buys, garantiert.

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Erster Mini-Erfolg für Conor. Er hat es immerhin geschafft einem Ex-Weltmeister in der ersten Sparring Session ein blaues Auge zu verpassen.

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Ein Gegner, den niemand kennt und eine Card, die niemand sehen wird (zeitgleich läuft GGG vs Canelo). Tolles Comeback für das UFC Supermodel.

Weidman is back! Freut mich unheimlich für ihn. Toller Main Event.

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Conor 1-0 Draymond

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Fight Week!

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Das wär mal ein interessanter Fight. Da wäre auch ne dicke Börse am Start.

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Das wär mal ein interessanter Fight. Da wäre auch ne dicke Börse am Start.

Wenn das relativ zeitnah passieren würde (innerhalb des nächsten Jahres) und Jones weiter ungeschlagen bleibt, wäre das einer der größten Fights der UFC Geschichte. In diesen Tagen ist nichts unmöglich und die UFC hat aktuell nicht viele wirkliche Money Fights zu bieten. Wenn Jones und Lesnar beide sagen, dass sie diesen Fight wollen und für die UFC ist eine Menge Geld zu verdienen... warum nicht?

Ich würd den Fight auch gerne sehen, aber dieses Wochenende soll Jones bitte verlieren. Ich bin nicht Dana und von daher muss ich da zum Glück nicht mit geschäftlichen Hintergedanken ran. Lesnar vs Jones wäre so oder so ein Fight den jeder Hardcore und Casual MMA Fan schauen würden.

Was aber echt enttäuschend ist, ist die Coverage zu den anderen beiden Title Fights beim kommenden PPV. Man kann da über die Beteiligten sagen oder denken was man will, aber wenn man nicht versucht sie (gerade im Schatten zweier Draws) zu hypen, dann braucht man sich auch nicht wundern wieso derzeit nur eine sehr überschaubare Anzahl an Fightern Cards effektiv headlinen können.

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Jones' letzte Worte bei der PK: "I'll deal with Daniel, then I'll deal with Brock Lesnar"

Er meint es offenbar ernst...

Dana hat auch nochmal wiederholt, dass laut aktuellem Plan der Sieger aus Woodley vs Maia den Belt gegen GSP verteidigt. Bisping ist angeblich raus aus der Verlosung.

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